{"id":905,"date":"2004-01-09T17:31:00","date_gmt":"2004-01-09T16:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/artherapievirtus.org\/VPI\/9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau\/"},"modified":"2004-01-09T17:31:00","modified_gmt":"2004-01-09T16:31:00","slug":"9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/artherapievirtus.org\/VPI\/9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau\/","title":{"rendered":"9\/ Trois profils des p\u00e8res incestueux par Roland Coutenceau"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/Trois%20profils%20des%20p%C3%83%C2%A8res%20incestueux%20par%20Roland%20Coutenceau\"><img src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_zJaWiuyLBMY\/Sq-zv68RzqI\/AAAAAAAAAQQ\/_21jWRl8dY0\/s200\/Vivre+Apr%C3%A8s+L%27inceste.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a>       <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <o:documentproperties>   <o:template>Normal<\/o:Template>   <o:revision>0<\/o:Revision>   <o:totaltime>0<\/o:TotalTime>   <o:pages>1<\/o:Pages>   <o:words>350<\/o:Words>   <o:characters>1998<\/o:Characters>   <o:lines>16<\/o:Lines>   <o:paragraphs>3<\/o:Paragraphs>   <o:characterswithspaces>2453<\/o:CharactersWithSpaces>   <o:version>11.1282<\/o:Version>  <\/o:DocumentProperties>  <o:officedocumentsettings>   <o:allowpng\/>  <\/o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>  <w:worddocument>   <w:zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>   <w:donotshowrevisions\/>   <w:donotprintrevisions\/>   <w:hyphenationzone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>   <w:displayhorizontaldrawinggridevery>0<\/w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery>   <w:displayverticaldrawinggridevery>0<\/w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery>   <w:usemarginsfordrawinggridorigin\/>  <\/w:WordDocument> <\/xml><![endif]--> <!--StartFragment--><span><span>Pages 154-155<\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span>  <\/div>\n<p><span>Les <span>immaturo-n\u00e9vrotiques<\/span> reconnaissent beaucoup de choses, se sentent honteux, parfois coupables, admettent un retentissement sur leur fille, demandent des soins, font une recherche spontan\u00e9e pour comprendre ce qu&rsquo;ils ont fait, sont dans une qu\u00eate plut\u00f4t authentique m\u00eame si tout n&rsquo;est pas clair dans leur attitude. Ils rel\u00e8vent d&rsquo;une th\u00e9rapie individuelle ou de groupe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<div>  <\/div>\n<p><span>Les <span>immaturo-\u00e9gocentriques<\/span> ont des positionnements contrast\u00e9s, partag\u00e9s, avec un d\u00e9sir de se comprendre mais aussi un d\u00e9sir de se prot\u00e9ger apr\u00e8s l&rsquo;acte et, au fond, une volont\u00e9 \u00e9gocentrique de p\u00e2tir le moins possible. Ils admettent des faits ou bien ont des mensonges d&rsquo;enfant, nient des \u00e9vidences. Le th\u00e9rapeute peut avoir de la sympathie pour leur histoire traumatique, mais \u00eatre irrit\u00e9 par leur nature \u00e9gocentrique. Ceux-l\u00e0 \u00e9voluent peu en psychoth\u00e9rapie individuelle et nous les pla\u00e7ons dans des groupes pour les confronter \u00e0 des gens qui ont un peu plus avanc\u00e9 et ont un rapport plus autocritique \u00e0 eux-m\u00eames.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<div>  <\/div>\n<p><span><span>Les <span>immaturo-pervers<\/span> restent d\u00e9fiants, nient les faits, n&rsquo;ont pas d&#8217;empathie ni de sentiment pour leur fille, nient la loi. Ils sont en de\u00e7\u00e0 de toute approche th\u00e9rapeutique simple, classique. Ils irritent les th\u00e9rapeutes qui se sentent parfois impuissants et d\u00e9veloppent un rejet \u00e0 leur \u00e9gard, estimant qu&rsquo;ils m\u00e9ritent plut\u00f4t d&rsquo;\u00eatre punis que d&rsquo;\u00eatre pris en charge. Notre technique consiste \u00e0 mettre un seul de ces sujets dans chaque groupe pour qu&rsquo;il soit confront\u00e9 \u00e0 d&rsquo;autres qui ont des positions plus ouvertes, plus critiques. On les trempe en quelque sorte dans un bain humain : cette \u00ab trempette \u00bb favorise de fa\u00e7on quasi chimique une certaine perm\u00e9abilit\u00e9 psychique. Nous faisons le pari qu&rsquo;ils s&rsquo;imbiberont des questionnements des autres et que leur position tonique, voire tonitruante, qui est une position m\u00e9galomaniaque li\u00e9e \u00e0 une fragilit\u00e9, \u00e0 la peur de l&rsquo;autre, devienne friable, se fissure. L\u00e0, nous sommes \u00e0 la limite de la recherche, car beaucoup de praticiens se sentent d\u00e9pourvus d&rsquo;outils op\u00e9rationnels face \u00e0 ces sujets et ne veulent pas s&rsquo;en occuper.<br \/><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><span>Je pense pour ma part que, derri\u00e8re ces attitudes de d\u00e9fi, de bravade, peut se r\u00e9v\u00e9ler au cours de la psychoth\u00e9rapie une souffrance masqu\u00e9e, un questionnement int\u00e9rieur, alors que lors de l&rsquo;expertise psychiatrique, ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9crits comme extr\u00eamement ferm\u00e9s, imperm\u00e9ables \u00e0 l&rsquo;interpellation.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>_________________________<\/p>\n<p><span><span>Voir aussi les billets concernant le livre de Roland Coutanceau :<\/span><\/span><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/08\/vivre-apres-linceste-hair-ou-pardonner.html\">1\/ Vivre apr\u00e8s l&rsquo;inceste : Ha\u00efr ou pardonner<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/search\/label\/Pardon\"><br \/>2\/ Peut-on pardonner ?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/08\/un-silence-difficile-rompre.html\">3\/ Un silence difficile \u00e0 rompre<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/search\/label\/Pardon\"><br \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/08\/roland-coutenceau-desordres.html\"><span>4\/ D\u00e9sordres relationnels et sexuels<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/le-pere-incestueux-par-roland.html\"><span>5\/ Le p\u00e8re incestueux<\/span><\/a><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/resilience-autofiction.over-blog.fr\/article-35549869.html\">*\/ L&rsquo;enfant investi d&rsquo;une sorte de mission<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/les-milieux-sociaux-et-culturels-par.html\"><span>6\/ Les milieux sociaux et culturels<\/span><\/a><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/09\/quelques-consequences-sur-les.html\">7\/ Quelques cons\u00e9quences sur les survivantes<\/a><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/11\/les-meres-selon-roland-coutanceau.html\" mce_href=\"http:\/\/viols-par-inceste.blogspot.com\/2009\/11\/les-meres-selon-roland-coutanceau.html\">10\/ Les m\u00e8res<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><\/p>\n<p>  <!--EndFragment--><\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\"><div class=\"robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-official sd-sharing\"><h3 class=\"sd-title\">Partager:<\/h3><div class=\"sd-content\"><ul><li class=\"share-facebook\"><div class=\"fb-share-button\" data-href=\"https:\/\/artherapievirtus.org\/VPI\/9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau\/\" data-layout=\"button_count\"><\/div><\/li><li class=\"share-twitter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share\" class=\"twitter-share-button\" data-url=\"https:\/\/artherapievirtus.org\/VPI\/9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau\/\" data-text=\"9\/ Trois profils des p\u00e8res incestueux par Roland Coutenceau\"  >Tweet<\/a><\/li><li class=\"share-linkedin\"><div class=\"linkedin_button\"><script type=\"in\/share\" data-url=\"https:\/\/artherapievirtus.org\/VPI\/9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau\/\" data-counter=\"right\"><\/script><\/div><\/li><li class=\"share-email\"><a rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-shared=\"\" class=\"share-email sd-button\" href=\"https:\/\/artherapievirtus.org\/VPI\/9-trois-profils-des-peres-incestueux-par-roland-coutenceau\/?share=email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Cliquez pour envoyer par e-mail \u00e0 un ami\"><span>E-mail<\/span><\/a><\/li><li class=\"share-end\"><\/li><\/ul><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pages 154-155 Les immaturo-n\u00e9vrotiques reconnaissent beaucoup de choses, se sentent honteux, parfois coupables, admettent un retentissement sur leur fille, demandent des soins, font une recherche spontan\u00e9e pour comprendre ce qu&rsquo;ils ont fait, sont dans une qu\u00eate plut\u00f4t authentique m\u00eame si tout n&rsquo;est pas clair dans leur attitude. 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